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Post by bk on Jun 6, 2018 1:06:25 GMT
Do you know what the word MAY means Waris stop calling it a lie... I came here to show you FE because It made my faith ten fold. Yes the enemy has turned it into a time wasting circus and he did that to keep you from the truth..guess what he won you lost.
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Post by waris on Jun 6, 2018 1:09:01 GMT
I read the verses you quoted and some of them was from the quran. They don't prove your assumptions on claiming Jesus is not God or the Christ. There is a reason why Jesus did not explicitly refer to himself as God because He is setting an example for all men by giving glory to the Father. He hid it from the eyes of the people so that they would eventually crucify him and to fulfill the scripture seeing they did not perceive and hearing they did not understand.
No one was throwing stones except when you accused us of doing things we did not.
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Post by waris on Jun 6, 2018 1:11:33 GMT
Do you know what the word MAY means Waris stop calling it a lie... I came here to show you FE because It made my faith ten fold. Yes the enemy has turned it into a time wasting circus and he did that to keep you from the truth..guess what he won you lost. You said "Your life depends on it". You changed it to "may", but you don't realize that i quoted you and the original post you made proves that there is no "may" in what you said. Proving that the only one lying here is you.
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Post by waris on Jun 6, 2018 1:15:08 GMT
alright waris finally we can have a good debate without throwing stones. I read those passages you posted And I don't have a problem with any except the rev one and I already said my opinion on that. But my Question now is...why do you choose to believe those three verses over the umpteen I posted? Is there something I don't know or are you just picking a side how are we supposed to figure this out ? Just to be clear you didn't post those verses, someone else did, but i perceived you were the same person when you first came in, just trying to make it look like there was another person to back you up.
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Post by Barneyk/ bk/Martin luther on Jun 6, 2018 1:28:42 GMT
your assuming i had ill intentions and lying wrong again yes i miss spoke and changed it immediatly when i realized what i had done. wow you finally figured it out lol there are many people that back me up where do you think i learned this stuff. I can see your not trying to learn a damned thing because you have to dwell on a typo to avoid the Grit. you have bashed me from the start. I created an alias because i let my temper get ahold of me and i knew you wouldn't listen to me anymore. I felt you might be more receptive to a completely different being. and you know what it worked. Quit assuming i'm here to hurt you. which you have done from your very first post
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Post by waris on Jun 6, 2018 1:40:20 GMT
your assuming i had ill intentions and lying wrong again yes i miss spoke and changed it immediatly when i realized what i had done. wow you finally figured it out lol there are many people that back me up where do you think i learned this stuff. I can see your not trying to learn a damned thing because you have to dwell on a typo to avoid the Grit. you have bashed me from the start. I created an alias because i let my temper get ahold of me and i knew you wouldn't listen to me anymore. I felt you might be more receptive to a completely different being. and you know what it worked. Quit assuming i'm here to hurt you. which you have done from your very first post The first time you used another name i knew it was you i just didn't say anything but i still spoke as if you were the same person. You did not change it immediately you changed it the next day after i said something about it. Where have i bashed you? You are wrong when you say that we wouldn't have listened to you anymore because we still would have so you needing to use another name was not necessary. If you are a brother in Christ here me, stop accusing people of things they never did, stop assuming things that are not true, stop denying Jesus Christ is God because that is an antichrist spirit. You mentioned before how you said you have no family but yet you have a wife and kids. The enemy is lying to you big time and provoking you to anger. Please let there be no strife in your heart and seek the peace that surpasses all understanding. A tactic of the enemy is to cause confusion and take our focus off of the real truth which is Christ Jesus. Paul has said i come knowing nothing but the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 1:44:50 GMT
I read the verses you quoted and some of them was from the quran. They don't prove your assumptions on claiming Jesus is not God or the Christ. There is a reason why Jesus did not explicitly refer to himself as God because He is setting an example for all men by giving glory to the Father. He hid it from the eyes of the people so that they would eventually crucify him and to fulfill the scripture seeing they did not perceive and hearing they did not understand. No one was throwing stones except when you accused us of doing things we did not. you have a point i now have to do more research. thank you I hope you learn to admit your wrongs so you can grow. this conversation has turned toxic and i think we should end it i did what i came here to do and i got what i needed out of it thank you for giving me your time and putting up with my bullshit and I hope all of you take those blinders off and learn your enemy! Btw i don't make accusations that arent true they may not be true to you because of your pride or past traumas but they are true to me I'm deleting my account and i'll never be back so say whatever you want to try to save face I dont care i'm moving on
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Post by waris on Jun 6, 2018 1:51:06 GMT
I read the verses you quoted and some of them was from the quran. They don't prove your assumptions on claiming Jesus is not God or the Christ. There is a reason why Jesus did not explicitly refer to himself as God because He is setting an example for all men by giving glory to the Father. He hid it from the eyes of the people so that they would eventually crucify him and to fulfill the scripture seeing they did not perceive and hearing they did not understand. No one was throwing stones except when you accused us of doing things we did not. you have a point i now have to do more research. thank you I hope you learn to admit your wrongs so you can grow. this conversation has turned toxic and i think we should end it i did what i came here to do and i got what i needed out of it thank you for giving me your time and putting up with my bullshit and I hope all of you take those blinders off and learn your enemy! Btw i don't make accusations that arent true they may not be true to you because of your pride or past traumas but they are true to me I'm deleting my account and i'll never be back so say whatever you want to try to save face I dont care i'm moving on Again you are contradicting yourself. You never answered any of my questions that asked where were we offensive and where did we bash you. Where did we do wrong because if you tell us i will here and improve. The conversation is not toxic, only the parts where you kept accusing us of things we did not do. You say we are blinded but you cannot even see that it is you who is blinded. It's because of pride that you refuse to listen to us and refuse to stick around to learn and grow instead you decide to take off.
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Post by som yun gy on Jun 8, 2018 12:10:34 GMT
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Post by waris on Jun 8, 2018 19:17:28 GMT
We already know that the trinity is a word made up by the catholics. There is only one God and one deity however in three forms/ three part being. Jesus Christ is God in flesh. Anyone who denies the Son does not have the Father (1 John 2:23). John 11 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 John 57 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Matthew 2819 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Philippians 25 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
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Post by som yun gy on Jun 8, 2018 19:22:38 GMT
who is denying Jesus? it sure isn't me He is our savior and the only way to be saved is to follow him. however he is not God.
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Post by waris on Jun 8, 2018 19:30:13 GMT
who is denying Jesus? it sure isn't me He is our savior and the only way to be saved is to follow him. however he is not God. Denying Jesus Christ is God is denying Him. I don't know why you seem to ignore scripture and replace it with the opinions of yourself and others.
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Post by som yun gy on Jun 8, 2018 19:30:20 GMT
you must be a speed reader to have gone through all that information and used your discretion to figure if your the one under a great delusion or me. I'm only trying to help you but you think i'm some snake in the grass and you certainly don't want your whole paradigm shifted so you keep those blinders on...if I say hey look there is a spider on your back and you don't even look and tell me i'm lying well sir who is the fool?
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Post by som yun gy on Jun 8, 2018 19:33:27 GMT
where in the bible does it say that if I deny him being God i'm denying Him. Jesus himself denied being God does that mean Jesus Denied His God?
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Post by waris on Jun 8, 2018 19:33:42 GMT
you must be a speed reader to have gone through all that information and used your discretion to figure if your the one under a great delusion or me. I'm only trying to help you but you think i'm some snake in the grass and you certainly don't want your whole paradigm shifted so you keep those blinders on...if I say hey look there is a spider on your back and you don't even look and tell me i'm lying well sir who is the fool? Again you assume things that are not true and saying we have blinders when you are taking others opinions at face value and ignoring scripture.
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