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Post by Larry Marquez on May 24, 2018 6:25:58 GMT
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. ( what is the gospel of the kingdom? Is it just the gospel of Christ crucified death and resurrection or is it referring to a deeper dimension the parables of the kingdom of God?) Maybe it relates to Revelation 14:6? " Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people. " (NIV Version)
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Post by Jeff G on May 24, 2018 14:31:39 GMT
I would say that the Gospel is just one thing (whether we call it the Gospel of the Kingdom or not), but we need to put together a few pieces.
Here is Mark 1:14-15 - Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” So the Gospel of the Kingdom begins with the preaching of Jesus and John the Baptist (who proclaimed this same message).
But we also need to take into account Paul's description of the Gospel that we find in 1 Corinthians 15 - that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures.
So here is how I would put this together to describe the Gospel: The Kingdom of God is at hand - that is, the dominion of God is breaking through into the earth. It is present now in a very real but spiritual way, and one day the rulership of God will fill the earth (the Messianic Era). In order to enter into this Kingdom, turn to Jesus the Messiah and put your trust in Him... that He died for your sins and rose from the dead.
(So when Jesus uses the phrase 'the Gospel of the Kingdom', I think He is emphasizing the Kingdom aspect of it, and not only the personal salvation aspect.)
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Post by Jeff G on May 24, 2018 17:35:14 GMT
But yes, I think that in order to understand this fully we need to take into account the parables about the Kingdom, and Revelation 14:6, and whatever else.
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Post by demetri on May 24, 2018 19:15:53 GMT
Quick question concerning rev 14:6. Is the angel flying spreading the gospel a representation of a messenger(s) rapidly spreading the gospel. So evangelists basically?
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Post by Larry Marquez on May 25, 2018 15:18:18 GMT
Quick question concerning rev 14:6. Is the angel flying spreading the gospel a representation of a messenger(s) rapidly spreading the gospel. So evangelists basically? I think it's just one angel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 14:26:10 GMT
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Post by waris on Jun 1, 2018 16:49:08 GMT
Our life does not depend on whether the earth is flat or round. It really does not matter in the scope of eternity and salvation.
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Post by Matthew on Jun 1, 2018 17:56:07 GMT
Anything that brings your eyes away from Jesus is just going to ruin your life more in the end. Be careful with things like obsessing about the shape of the earth. It’s about knowing the Knower, not knowing the particulars. God controls everything, and all we have to concern ourselves with is knowing, loving, and serving Him.
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Post by Matthew on Jun 1, 2018 19:54:36 GMT
I apologize if I assumed. I’ll look more deeply into it when I get the chance. It stemmed from the first link having a playlist/videos all about the flat earth. The second link has a channel with no content whatsoever. The third link is a channel with the Earth, it’s energy and other geological things. I guess you’ll have to be patient with me as well because I don’t quite understand where I’m supposed to be looking, if it is that serious I’d like to understand. Please go ahead and explain more in depth
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 14:36:54 GMT
Waris If it doesn't matter answer this question. Why would God make it the first thing he ever taught you Gen1? if it doesn't matter why put it in the bible at all? www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu_lLKsavOk
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Post by christopher on Jun 2, 2018 23:06:46 GMT
Hey : )
Remember God judges us by our sincerity not our theology.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
We are supposed to seek the way the TRUTH and the life If we don't He never knew us
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Post by moni on Jun 2, 2018 23:30:22 GMT
Im going to be blunt.
If there is any distraction that bothers me most Its the flat earth theory. The fruit that all this "activism" produces is strife and pride and all kinds of unnecessary stuff.
Jesus is the way the Truth and the life Not shape of earth. Praise God
There is NOTHING else you need to know than Jesus. In Jesus is everything. The way to salvation all the convictions river of living water literally everything you need.
And to be honest
I dont believe earth is flat.
For me it could be donut. Donut is pretty cool shape.
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Post by waris on Jun 3, 2018 2:16:47 GMT
I agree with moni, Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha'Mashiach) is the truth that makes us free. Only He can save us. Knowing whether it's flat earth or round earth is not going to save us. So let me ask you a question why does it matter if the earth is flat or round? How is it a threat to our lives when we are suppose to be laying down our lives for Him anyway? How will this information help the poor and needy?
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Post by Matthew on Jun 3, 2018 6:29:11 GMT
Alright, well I spent a good chunk of time checking out this guy. I got through nearly all of his stuff. I think he hits a lot of good points on how we’re brainwashed to think the wrong way and he could be completely right with his theory. There’s just a few issues that makes it seem to me that he doesn’t know the Truth. The Truth is not something that you can know intellectually, the Truth is Jesus Christ. This man even talked about how he was thankful someone taught him how to read the Bible and how it was 100% true. Well, if that’s the case, Jesus’ other words are just as important, not just the ones that fit his theory on how the days are becoming shorter. Not just Genesis chapter 1. If we want to know the Truth, we have to go to Jesus and have a relationship with Him. He says my sheep hear my voice, I know them and they follow Me. He says that He is the Way, and the Truth, and the Life, and no one can come to the Father except through Him. As I said, the devil will seek to keep your eyes from Jesus no matter what. The devil creates a million different possible ‘truths’ sometimes even with some actual truth, just to keep your eyes off the pure Truth, which again is Jesus.
If we know Jesus, and hear His voice, and are led by the Holy Spirit all the time, then we can have life and He will guide us through all things. We don’t have to worry about any catastrophes because He is in control.
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