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Feb 1, 2019 18:16:18 GMT
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Post by zirui on Feb 1, 2019 18:16:18 GMT
Would God send people to hell over a technicality? Examples include drinking animal blood ( Chinese chicken blood soup) spending money on the sabbath or the Lords day, dying without getting baptized, and not tithing ten percent?
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Feb 1, 2019 18:41:27 GMT
Post by waris on Feb 1, 2019 18:41:27 GMT
No. You make choices that can lead to the shedding of innocent blood. If you willfully keep choosing wrong, then does he send you to hell or do you go there by default (of your own doing)?
Where in the bible does it say any of those things you mentioned are sins?
However on the topic of baptism if you know your supposed to get baptized and you don't do it then what?
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Feb 1, 2019 18:59:11 GMT
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Post by zirui on Feb 1, 2019 18:59:11 GMT
No. You make choices that can lead to the shedding of innocent blood. If you willfully keep choosing wrong, then does he send you to hell or do you go there by default (of your own doing)? Where in the bible does it say any of those things you mentioned are sins? However on the topic of baptism if you know your supposed to get baptized and you don't do it then what? . Genesis 9:4 ESV / 133 helpful votes But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. Acts 15:20 ESV / 109 helpful votes But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. Hebrews 7:2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace." Hebrew 7 17 . 17For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” So Jesus Melchizedek priest and tithing started then predating the law. To answer your question I am baptized but my blind grandfather who recently got saved in China needs to get baptized he dosent leave the house and grandma dosent know he saved because she kinda anti Christen so we didn’t tell her cause we don’t want her to discourage my grand father from believing in the faith.
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Post by waris on Feb 1, 2019 19:29:27 GMT
No. You make choices that can lead to the shedding of innocent blood. If you willfully keep choosing wrong, then does he send you to hell or do you go there by default (of your own doing)? Where in the bible does it say any of those things you mentioned are sins? However on the topic of baptism if you know your supposed to get baptized and you don't do it then what? . Genesis 9:4 ESV / 133 helpful votes But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. Acts 15:20 ESV / 109 helpful votes But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. Hebrews 7:2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace." Hebrew 7 17 . 17For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” So Jesus Melchizedek priest and tithing started then predating the law. To answer your question I am baptized but my blind grandfather who recently got saved in China needs to get baptized he dosent leave the house and grandma dosent know he saved because she kinda anti Christen so we didn’t tell her cause we don’t want her to discourage my grand father from believing in the faith. "Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe." (Number 18:26). This is an old testament law. We are not under the law. If you do this one you better do the rest of them. Read Galatians 3. However one should give as they feel led to give, not out of fear or obligation/law."But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (Acts 15:20) I think this means from things murdered and blood used for idols or rituals or sacrifices. Also read Romans 14.
Was it a law to give the Melchizedek high priest a tithe? Or did Abraham do it out of faith?
In Hebrews 7, Jesus is made a priest under the order of Melchizedek, which nullifies the levitical priesthood that was under the law. Yet If we do what Jesus says then are we under His priesthood and not the priesthood of the law. What does Jesus tell us to do? What do the epistles tell us to do? Only God can give this priesthood to someone, Jesus is our high priest forever and no one else is.
Keep in mind Jesus did get baptized and tells us to baptize and the people in acts all got baptized even the ones that received the Holy Ghost before baptism.
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Feb 1, 2019 19:52:42 GMT
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Post by zirui on Feb 1, 2019 19:52:42 GMT
. Genesis 9:4 ESV / 133 helpful votes But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. Acts 15:20 ESV / 109 helpful votes But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. Hebrews 7:2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace." Hebrew 7 17 . 17For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” So Jesus Melchizedek priest and tithing started then predating the law. To answer your question I am baptized but my blind grandfather who recently got saved in China needs to get baptized he dosent leave the house and grandma dosent know he saved because she kinda anti Christen so we didn’t tell her cause we don’t want her to discourage my grand father from believing in the faith. "Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe." (Number 18:26). This is an old testament law. We are not under the law. If you do this one you better do the rest of them. Read Galatians 3. However one should give as they feel led to give, not out of fear or obligation/law."But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (Acts 15:20) I think this means from things murdered and blood used for idols or rituals or sacrifices. Also read Romans 14.
Was it a law to give the Melchizedek high priest a tithe? Or did Abraham do it out of faith?
In Hebrews 7, Jesus is made a priest under the order of Melchizedek, which nullifies the levitical priesthood that was under the law. Yet If we do what Jesus says then are we under His priesthood and not the priesthood of the law. What does Jesus tell us to do? What do the epistles tell us to do? Only God can give this priesthood to someone, Jesus is our high priest forever and no one else is.
Keep in mind Jesus did get baptized and tells us to baptize and the people in acts all got baptized even the ones that received the Holy Ghost before baptism.Tithing predates the law Abraham and Jacob tithed. So doing tithing doesn’t require to be under the law because it existed before the law was given. Same situation with sabbath it existed before the law was given. Genesis 28:22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God's house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.” (granted these were volunteers if offering. When God save Noah after the flood he gave him permission to eat meet but forbid him from drinking blood this rule was instituted before the law its later mentioned agin in the law and New Testament so if you obey this it shouldn’t put you under the law because it predates the law in the law and appear again after the law mentioned in Acts. The main point of this is that I watched some hell testimonies of Korean Christians and other Christians who saw hell. They claimed to see pastors and christians who didn’t tithe teach people to tithe, work or spent money on the sabbath/Sunday and ate korean dog blood dishes or some animal blood dish end up in hell because of these rules I don’t know if their testimonies are true I just don’t want my brothers and sister in Christ to go to hell over a technicality. These testimonies have cause me much distress and questioning. here is a playlist where you can listen to their testimony m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC95EA7F791BF564 Their book is called baptized by blazing fire.
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Feb 1, 2019 20:17:37 GMT
Post by waris on Feb 1, 2019 20:17:37 GMT
"Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe." (Number 18:26). This is an old testament law. We are not under the law. If you do this one you better do the rest of them. Read Galatians 3. However one should give as they feel led to give, not out of fear or obligation/law."But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (Acts 15:20) I think this means from things murdered and blood used for idols or rituals or sacrifices. Also read Romans 14.
Was it a law to give the Melchizedek high priest a tithe? Or did Abraham do it out of faith?
In Hebrews 7, Jesus is made a priest under the order of Melchizedek, which nullifies the levitical priesthood that was under the law. Yet If we do what Jesus says then are we under His priesthood and not the priesthood of the law. What does Jesus tell us to do? What do the epistles tell us to do? Only God can give this priesthood to someone, Jesus is our high priest forever and no one else is.
Keep in mind Jesus did get baptized and tells us to baptize and the people in acts all got baptized even the ones that received the Holy Ghost before baptism.Tithing predates the law Abraham and Jacob tithed. So doing tithing doesn’t require to be under the law because it existed before the law was given. Same situation with sabbath it existed before the law was given. Genesis 28:22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God's house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.” (granted these were volunteers if offering. When God save Noah after the flood he gave him permission to eat meet but forbid him from drinking blood this rule was instituted before the law its later mentioned agin in the law and New Testament so if you obey this it shouldn’t put you under the law because it predates the law in the law and appear again after the law mentioned in Acts. The main point of this is that I watched some hell testimonies of Korean Christians and other Christians who saw hell. They claimed to see pastors and christians who didn’t tithe teach people to tithe, work or spent money on the sabbath/Sunday and ate korean dog blood dishes or some animal blood dish end up in hell because of these rules I don’t know if their testimonies are true I just don’t want my brothers and sister in Christ to go to hell over a technicality. These testimonies have cause me much distress and questioning. here is a playlist where you can listen to their testimony m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC95EA7F791BF564 Their book is called baptized by blazing fire. But it's not a law to tithe. Tithing doesn't save you. It's good to donate or give or share, but it depends on the heart and how you are led by the Spirit. Giving thinking you may get something in return is not giving it is buying. Giving because you are fearful is not giving cheerfully. It is lawful to do good on the sabbath. The sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath. Abide in Christ, Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. If God tells you personally not to drink blood then it is sin if you disobey. Me personally i don't drink blood because i think it's gross being raised in america its not really a normal american food/ part of the culture. However in survival situations if you had to choose between drinking blood or dying then which would you choose? "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16) "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Corinthians 9:7) "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings." (Malachi 3:8)
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Feb 1, 2019 20:37:09 GMT
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Post by zirui on Feb 1, 2019 20:37:09 GMT
Tithing predates the law Abraham and Jacob tithed. So doing tithing doesn’t require to be under the law because it existed before the law was given. Same situation with sabbath it existed before the law was given. Genesis 28:22 And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God's house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.” (granted these were volunteers if offering. When God save Noah after the flood he gave him permission to eat meet but forbid him from drinking blood this rule was instituted before the law its later mentioned agin in the law and New Testament so if you obey this it shouldn’t put you under the law because it predates the law in the law and appear again after the law mentioned in Acts. The main point of this is that I watched some hell testimonies of Korean Christians and other Christians who saw hell. They claimed to see pastors and christians who didn’t tithe teach people to tithe, work or spent money on the sabbath/Sunday and ate korean dog blood dishes or some animal blood dish end up in hell because of these rules I don’t know if their testimonies are true I just don’t want my brothers and sister in Christ to go to hell over a technicality. These testimonies have cause me much distress and questioning. here is a playlist where you can listen to their testimony m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAC95EA7F791BF564 Their book is called baptized by blazing fire. But it's not a law to tithe. Tithing doesn't save you. It's good to donate or give or share, but it depends on the heart and how you are led by the Spirit. Giving thinking you may get something in return is not giving it is buying. Giving because you are fearful is not giving cheerfully. It is lawful to do good on the sabbath. The sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath. Abide in Christ, Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. If God tells you personally not to drink blood then it is sin if you disobey. Me personally i don't drink blood because i think it's gross being raised in america its not really a normal american food/ part of the culture. However in survival situations if you had to choose between drinking blood or dying then which would you choose? "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16) "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Corinthians 9:7) "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings." (Malachi 3:8) The question isn’t does tithing save you. The question is is not tithing sin. The goal is willing to give all to God with tithing as a minimum. Is not tithing a sin. But honestly wether the testimonies of theses Christians who saw hell and other belivers ending up in hell because they didn’t follow the rules needs to be reviewed and tested. When I learned about not drinking blood and realized it might be a sin. I repented and stop drinking chicken blood soup which is very delicious. I use to get them in China I stop eating it because oof the possibilitiy it’s a sin. On the question of drinking blood or dying I don’t know. But I doubt drinking animal blood is going to prolong a persons life much longer.
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Feb 1, 2019 20:38:44 GMT
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Post by Larry Marquez on Feb 1, 2019 20:38:44 GMT
I think we shouldn't eat food that uses blood to be made. That verse in Acts is pretty clear. Unless God tells a person to eat a dish that was made by using blood, but they should double-check with God first to make sure it was him. Doug gave examples how a man entered a strip-club to answer a person's prayer to get them out of there and also an example a person got a tattoo because God told them to.
" But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. " - Romans 14:23 NIV
(This verse is very important. That's why I don't try to learn many new things, unless I'm sure God wants me to. I think Doug talked about a similar question on one of his live streams from a comment/question someone posted, about certain people seeing Hell and seeing people there who didn't tithe and Doug referred to the verse I just listed.)
As for the tithe I think if Christians can't hear God super clearly, than they should at least give a tithe, since that's the standard it seems, but Jesus tells us to to go beyond the standard, so whatever you feel in your heart aboove the tithe I guess if you feel lead too?
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Feb 1, 2019 20:56:20 GMT
Post by waris on Feb 1, 2019 20:56:20 GMT
But it's not a law to tithe. Tithing doesn't save you. It's good to donate or give or share, but it depends on the heart and how you are led by the Spirit. Giving thinking you may get something in return is not giving it is buying. Giving because you are fearful is not giving cheerfully. It is lawful to do good on the sabbath. The sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath. Abide in Christ, Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. If God tells you personally not to drink blood then it is sin if you disobey. Me personally i don't drink blood because i think it's gross being raised in america its not really a normal american food/ part of the culture. However in survival situations if you had to choose between drinking blood or dying then which would you choose? "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" (Colossians 2:16) "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." (2 Corinthians 9:7) "Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings." (Malachi 3:8) The question isn’t does tithing save you. The question is is not tithing sin. The goal is willing to give all to God with tithing as a minimum. Is not tithing a sin. But honestly wether the testimonies of theses Christians who saw hell and other belivers ending up in hell because they didn’t follow the rules needs to be reviewed and tested. When I learned about not drinking blood and realized it might be a sin. I repented and stop drinking chicken blood soup which is very delicious. I use to get them in China I stop eating it because oof the possibilitiy it’s a sin. On the question of drinking blood or dying I don’t know. But I doubt drinking animal blood is going to prolong a persons life much longer. The question isn't, is not tithing a sin. The question is does not tithing send you to hell. Am i supposed to tithe to every single ministry in the world? If i don't tithe to them all will i go to hell? If i have to tithe to one then i have to tithe to all, otherwise it's not sin to not tithe, unless God tells you to give and you don't do it then it is sin. Watch Doug's video about tithing, if you wont listen to me, then listen to him. He says something like make sure your not tithing to satan. Look, if you were dying of dehydration and malnutrition, and this blood can get you to your destination 3 miles away to be rescued (if you were stranded somewhere). Would you choose death or would you drink it in order to walk the extra 3 miles? Obviously we are not supposed to eat food or drink blood sacrificed to idols.
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Feb 1, 2019 21:00:31 GMT
Post by waris on Feb 1, 2019 21:00:31 GMT
I think we shouldn't eat food that uses blood to be made. That verse in Acts is pretty clear. Unless God tells a person to eat a dish that was made by using blood, but they should double-check with God first to make sure it was him. Doug gave examples how a man entered a strip-club to answer a person's prayer to get them out of there and also an example a person got a tattoo because God told them to. " But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. " - Romans 14:23 NIV (This verse is very important. That's why I don't try to learn many new things, unless I'm sure God wants me to. I think Doug talked about a similar question on one of his live streams from a comment/question someone posted, about certain people seeing Hell and seeing people there who didn't tithe and Doug referred to the verse I just listed.) As for the tithe I think if Christians can't hear God super clearly, than they should at least give a tithe, since that's the standard it seems, but Jesus tells us to to go beyond the standard, so whatever you feel in your heart aboove the tithe I guess if you feel lead too? If you want to be a good person then give cheerfully and not be bitter about it later or hold it against that person. You don't have to give, however when you have a lot of stuff and money that you don't use or need and you refuse to give then that's probably greed or just lack of compassion. Especially if the money or stuff can help other people and you refuse to help would that be considered righteous in the eyes of God to withhold that money to help others, when you don't even need it?
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Feb 1, 2019 23:23:16 GMT
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Post by Larry Marquez on Feb 1, 2019 23:23:16 GMT
The question isn’t does tithing save you. The question is is not tithing sin. The goal is willing to give all to God with tithing as a minimum. Is not tithing a sin. But honestly wether the testimonies of theses Christians who saw hell and other belivers ending up in hell because they didn’t follow the rules needs to be reviewed and tested. When I learned about not drinking blood and realized it might be a sin. I repented and stop drinking chicken blood soup which is very delicious. I use to get them in China I stop eating it because oof the possibilitiy it’s a sin. On the question of drinking blood or dying I don’t know. But I doubt drinking animal blood is going to prolong a persons life much longer. The question isn't, is not tithing a sin. The question is does not tithing send you to hell. Am i supposed to tithe to every single ministry in the world? If i don't tithe to them all will i go to hell? If i have to tithe to one then i have to tithe to all, otherwise it's not sin to not tithe, unless God tells you to give and you don't do it then it is sin. Watch Doug's video about tithing, if you wont listen to me, then listen to him. He says something like make sure your not tithing to satan. Look, if you were dying of dehydration and malnutrition, and this blood can get you to your destination 3 miles away to be rescued (if you were stranded somewhere). Would you choose death or would you drink it in order to walk the extra 3 miles? Obviously we are not supposed to eat food or drink blood sacrificed to idols. I wouldn't drink it. I don't understand why you brought up titheing to all. When the bible says to do it out of a cheerful heart and not feel forced to (2 Corinthians 9:7). People can sin by doing an action and not doing an action (refusing a command from God they knew for sure about). As I said before, I think Christians should at least tithe if they don't hear clearly from God because that's the standard set in the Old Testament (The Law & old testament aren't the same thing, it depends on the context of the verse referenced), but Jesus tells us to go above the standard as for how much to give above the tithe that's up to the individual and God if they hear God well enough. As for giving below a tithe I don't know if that's a sin or not? Edit: changed some words Edit 2: Glynda Lomax theaches how titheing worked for a unbeliever. How you get protection over your finances and other stuff.
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Feb 2, 2019 1:25:56 GMT
Post by waris on Feb 2, 2019 1:25:56 GMT
The question isn't, is not tithing a sin. The question is does not tithing send you to hell. Am i supposed to tithe to every single ministry in the world? If i don't tithe to them all will i go to hell? If i have to tithe to one then i have to tithe to all, otherwise it's not sin to not tithe, unless God tells you to give and you don't do it then it is sin. Watch Doug's video about tithing, if you wont listen to me, then listen to him. He says something like make sure your not tithing to satan. Look, if you were dying of dehydration and malnutrition, and this blood can get you to your destination 3 miles away to be rescued (if you were stranded somewhere). Would you choose death or would you drink it in order to walk the extra 3 miles? Obviously we are not supposed to eat food or drink blood sacrificed to idols. I wouldn't drink it. I don't understand why you brought up titheing to all. When the bible says to do it out of a cheerful heart and not feel forced to (2 Corinthians 9:7). People can sin by doing an action and not doing an action (refusing a command from God they knew for sure about). As I said before, I think Christians should at least tithe if they don't hear clearly from God because that's the standard set in the Old Testament (The Law & old testament aren't the same thing, it depends on the context of the verse referenced), but Jesus tells us to go above the standard as for how much to give above the tithe that's up to the individual and God if they hear God well enough. As for giving below a tithe I don't know if that's a sin or not? Edit: changed some words Edit 2: Glynda Lomax theaches how titheing worked for a unbeliever. How you get protection over your finances and other stuff. I think you need to go back and actually read what i wrote. I already quoted 2 Corinthians 9:7. The topic is not about tithing working to get financial blessing (which is a flavor of prosperity gospel) or a person tithing, the topic is about the "sin" of "not tithing" sending someone to hell which it won't unless your in willful disobedience and haven't repented. If you want to do an old testament law then you better do all of them, don't eat pork, don't wear more than one fabric, and stone some people and sacrifice animals for sin offering. Your not justified by the law. Go and read what i wrote. Also would you drink the blood of Jesus? thought it's not physical blood it's probably spiritual. But in the spirit it is actual blood. Nevertheless there are people in other countries who eat all of the animal and even their blood because food is scare and they can't waste it. Why wouldn't you drink it unless you would rather die because it taste gross?
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Feb 2, 2019 4:10:27 GMT
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Post by Larry Marquez on Feb 2, 2019 4:10:27 GMT
We're not supposed to eat food with blood in it. So I'm not going to do that.
I already know the topic is about "is it a sin not to tithe and as a result does that person goes to hell?"
I already said I don't know.
In my own opnion Christians should at least give a tithe, since many people from the Old Testament gave a tithe and if they give less that's between them and God. As to where, maybe where they're getting a lot of spritual growth from or help from.
If the people in the Old Testament were able to tithe and they had such less advanced things then we do today. I'm pretty sure God is able to take care of someone if they tithe today. Also they're supposed to be exmaples we can look to. Not to mention Jesus probably tithed.
But if a Christian can hear God really clearly, like how Doug and other people that I've came across, then I'm sure their circusmtances will be different and will be accountable for more, on where they give and how much and when. I don't hear God really well so I try to at least tithe.
Doug talks about in one of his videos that a the majority of the church give less than 5% or some number below 10%, when giving money to help the church or ministries.
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Feb 2, 2019 12:21:56 GMT
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Post by waris on Feb 2, 2019 12:21:56 GMT
We're not supposed to eat food with blood in it. So I'm not going to do that. I already know the topic is about "is it a sin not to tithe and as a result does that person goes to hell?" I already said I don't know. In my own opnion Christians should at least give a tithe, since many people from the Old Testament gave a tithe and if they give less that's between them and God. As to where, maybe where they're getting a lot of spritual growth from or help from. If the people in the Old Testament were able to tithe and they had such less advanced things then we do today. I'm pretty sure God is able to take care of someone if they tithe today. Also they're supposed to be exmaples we can look to. Not to mention Jesus probably tithed. But if a Christian can hear God really clearly, like how Doug and other people that I've came across, then I'm sure their circusmtances will be different and will be accountable for more, on where they give and how much and when. I don't hear God really well so I try to at least tithe. Doug talks about in one of his videos that a the majority of the church give less than 5% or some number below 10%, when giving money to help the church or ministries. Well you don’t eat medium rare steaks? It’s a sin to eat a medium rare steak? Doug’s video describes giving how your led by the Spirit, and I think speaks against binding yourself to only 10% (I think but I’m not sure). People in the Old Testament were Jewish bound by the law. We are Christians of the New Testament not bound by the law of the old covenant. If you want to be Jewish then be Jewish. I’m not saying you shouldn’t give, I’m saying you shouldn’t make it a salvation issue, though you can’t serve two masters God and mammon and it’s hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
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Feb 2, 2019 16:30:46 GMT
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Post by Larry Marquez on Feb 2, 2019 16:30:46 GMT
We're not supposed to eat food with blood in it. So I'm not going to do that. I already know the topic is about "is it a sin not to tithe and as a result does that person goes to hell?" I already said I don't know. In my own opnion Christians should at least give a tithe, since many people from the Old Testament gave a tithe and if they give less that's between them and God. As to where, maybe where they're getting a lot of spritual growth from or help from. If the people in the Old Testament were able to tithe and they had such less advanced things then we do today. I'm pretty sure God is able to take care of someone if they tithe today. Also they're supposed to be exmaples we can look to. Not to mention Jesus probably tithed. But if a Christian can hear God really clearly, like how Doug and other people that I've came across, then I'm sure their circusmtances will be different and will be accountable for more, on where they give and how much and when. I don't hear God really well so I try to at least tithe. Doug talks about in one of his videos that a the majority of the church give less than 5% or some number below 10%, when giving money to help the church or ministries. Well you don’t eat medium rare steaks? It’s a sin to eat a medium rare steak? Doug’s video describes giving how your led by the Spirit, and I think speaks against binding yourself to only 10% (I think but I’m not sure). People in the Old Testament were Jewish bound by the law. We are Christians of the New Testament not bound by the law of the old covenant. If you want to be Jewish then be Jewish. I’m not saying you shouldn’t give, I’m saying you shouldn’t make it a salvation issue, though you can’t serve two masters God and mammon and it’s hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. I get well done steaks. I'm not making it a salvation issue. Never said people go to hell for not tithing. There's exmaples of 10% before the law. That's why I suggest to give 10%, but someone doesn't have to do that. With Doug's video his main point has always been do what God tells you to do. So if a person can hear God really well then give when God tells us to give or whatever else God wants that person to do. One example he gave that's a different topic is they had a meeting at a certain time to pray and study the Bible and they did it because God told him to ,but eventually the Holy Spirit stop showing up and they asked God what's wrong and God said I don't want you to meet up at that time anymore. Now at a different time. So they did that and the meeting was Spirit lead again. So the whole point of this topic or any other topic is just, if you hear God really well do what he wants you to do. And as I said before my suggestion is for a person who doesn't hear God really well then at least do the standard or go above that since Jesus said to go above the standard. The standard is the new covenant rules.
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