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Post by waris on Jul 6, 2018 7:59:14 GMT
Just speculation. Doug mentions in one of his videos that the epistle of barnabas is Holy Spirit inspired. In the epistle it talks about 6000 years of creation/ work and 1000 years of rest. The 1000 years beginning when Christ returns. Now i don't know if if it means 6000 years since the fall of man or since everything was created but for now im leaning towards since fall of man. In the gospels when Christ is talking about the end and his second coming, he says that this generation will not pass until the things he mentions are fulfilled. (Matthew 24). Right before that he gave a parable of the fig tree putting out it’s leaves. The fig tree is used as a symbol of Israel and putting forth its leaves means birthing of the nation. Israel became a nation again in 1948. If a generation is 100 years, and the scripture says the generation will not pass until the things he describes and his second coming be fulfilled means that the generation that sees Israel become a nation will not pass until the second coming is fulfilled. A generation being 100 years comes from genesis 15:12-16 and 21:5. 1948 + 100 = 2048 6000 - 2048 = 3952 3952 BC + 2048 AD = 6000 years The person Bede calculated 3952 BC as start of creation. View abrahamic religions section of the link. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_creationChrist must come back by 2048 “if” a generation is 100 years and “assuming” that’s what he meant when he said “this generation will not pass”. Edit: Also since it is a gregorian timeline of some sort. 3952 BC. The number 3952 in stong's concordance for greek, the word used means (a) presence, (b) a coming, an arrival, advent, especially of the second coming of Christ. biblehub.com/greek/3952.htm
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Creation
Jul 6, 2018 15:47:33 GMT
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Post by Larry Marquez on Jul 6, 2018 15:47:33 GMT
What about Matthew 24:22?
""If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened "
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Post by Jeff G on Jul 6, 2018 17:55:46 GMT
Yep, I've also heard the idea that the fig tree putting forth its leaves is the rebirth of Israel in 1948. You'll hear various ideas about how long a generation is - 40, 70, 80 or 120 years. But the verses you gave make a lot of sense.
Perhaps Matthew 24:22 is dealing with a shorter time scale - different than the count of years since 1948. That is, once we're in the final seven years, maybe it means the days will be cut short on the scale of days, weeks, or months. ...not really sure about this stuff, though.
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Post by waris on Jul 6, 2018 18:46:19 GMT
The days being cut short could refer to: -The days seem shorter as if time was speeding up -The days are shorter as in the sun rises and sets in a shorter amount of time changing a day to less than 24 hours -The second coming happens sooner rather than later (for example maybe it would have been better for Yeshua to come in the year 3000, but instead for the elect's sake He is coming in 2050) -Time is actually speeding up. If the world was allowed to continue it's course then no one would survive so for the elect's sake things/ events are unfolding faster thus making the second coming much sooner For example the chart showing a huge explosion of technological advancement in the last couple of decades compared throughout most of time. As well as population growth. All in a small amount of time compared to the rest of human history, goo.gl/images/BiqK4u
goo.gl/images/tz372HA modern day analogy would be cutting a presentation short because of time restraints. If the presentation is 1 hour and 20 mins long but people couldn't stay that long due to an issue then it has to be cut down to 40 min. For the people's sake.
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Creation
Jul 7, 2018 2:18:17 GMT
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Post by demetri on Jul 7, 2018 2:18:17 GMT
The epistle of Barnabas is so interesting. It’s got a lot of stuff that ties into Isaiah 58 and much more. Not totally sure why it wasn’t canonized apart from the 6000 years and the Lord will return part
Something interesting to note is a lot of people say the early church thought Jesus would return at any second/time. Apparently some believed differently. I don’t know if Barnabas was speaking from flesh or if it was inspired or a bit of both on this topic but it seems real likely and a possibility.
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Post by waris on Jul 7, 2018 2:46:09 GMT
I think the 6000 years has to do with 6 days. God rested on the 7th day. 1000 year millenium when Christ returns is a period of true peace and rest.
Revelation 20 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
2 Peter 3 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
"Coming" used in verse 4 is the strong's number 3952 referring to second coming of Christ, as mentioned in the first post. 3952 BC - 2048 AD is 6000 years.
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Jul 9, 2018 6:44:54 GMT
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Post by waris on Jul 9, 2018 6:44:54 GMT
Reading Matthew 1, it talks about 14 generations between Abraham and David and 14 between David and carrying into Babylon and 14 between Babylon and Christ. If I did math correctly that at least 40 years per generation. In Doug’s demon book, the bastard curse last about 10 generations which he writes at least 400 years. Which means that a generation could at least be 40 years and at most 100 years, could extend to 120, which I think comes from genesis 6:3.
Like methuselah who lived the longest in the Bible, the flood did not come until after he died, kind of signified by his name. So it would make sense that God would choose the maximum number of how long a generation is addressing the scripture “this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled”. Mercy of God giving us more time.
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Post by Matthew on Jul 14, 2018 17:41:53 GMT
All I can say is that, if life isn't cut short, I have the feeling that Jesus is going to come within our lifetimes. I've had the feeling for a little while now. The urgency of the hour is real.
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