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Post by moni on Dec 11, 2017 23:38:13 GMT
True. Sometimes its sneaky and slippery slope, but like i said i need discipline to stay focused
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Post by christopher on Dec 16, 2017 1:45:09 GMT
I just realized something that is a major component that motivates a person to backslide. Satan is VERY tricky. Today I was upset because I choked on a final I took, and I realized that after a while I was getting tempted to go back to the world because it would "make me feel better." Praise God I didn't. I think some of the most dangerous demons are self-pity, self-condemnation and Loneliness because they have understated characteristics but can open doors to tons of other demons. I honestly thought "I" was upset but it was actually self-pity hiding behind my heart (see Doug's demon book). The scary thing is that these demons were hidden so well that I was actually in agreement with them. I think that demons in this class are often responsible for not wanting to pray or just overall bitterness/hopelessness when thinking about God. For me, it kinda feels like my heart is cold, especially if I am thinking about God. I hope this helps someone. Tell me what you guys think about this.
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Post by Larry Marquez on Dec 16, 2017 4:30:32 GMT
I just realized something that is a major component that motivates a person to backslide. Satan is VERY tricky. Today I was upset because I choked on a final I took, and I realized that after a while I was getting tempted to go back to the world because it would "make me feel better." Praise God I didn't. I think some of the most dangerous demons are self-pity, self-condemnation and Loneliness because they have understated characteristics but can open doors to tons of other demons. I honestly thought "I" was upset but it was actually self-pity hiding behind my heart (see Doug's demon book). The scary thing is that these demons were hidden so well that I was actually in agreement with them. I think that demons in this class are often responsible for not wanting to pray or just overall bitterness/hopelessness when thinking about God. For me, it kinda feels like my heart is cold, especially if I am thinking about God. I hope this helps someone. Tell me what you guys think about this. I've noticed that too. Or when some people get upset they eat?
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Post by christopher on Dec 16, 2017 6:55:08 GMT
Yeah, I think its like some sort of demonic combo attack that can make it hard to point the finger at any one demon.
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Post by marktrusty on Dec 19, 2017 7:31:23 GMT
Backsliding has eaten away the precious time away from God. The truth is i can't blame God or demons. (although they have tricked me) I am responsible for all my choices no excuses not demons or God but me and my lack of knowledge. Maybe now without any of the lack of "bravery" or whatever has been whispered in my ear can be ignored and me finally ask for help. I have given myself over to sexual sin (porn) games food and an obvious one disobedience. I'm not sure how to ask for help since i have no family of Christ nearby or since i have kept myself away from those who are(if i had knew them). So i'll just ask for prayer in changing from darkness to light in truth and all seriousness to give all to Jesus. Thank you for being here.
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Post by christopher on Dec 19, 2017 23:57:36 GMT
Mark I think your giving yourself too much credit. Demons are very tricky and alot of what you think is you is actually a demon. Demons will cause you to be double minded then critsize YOU for doing it. The problem is these demons purposely warp your perception of yourself to keep you from God. Why? Because they know that should you get completely free, you could become unstoppable for the kingdom. I can tell you from personal experience that whenever you have negative feelings towards yourself or your relationship with God, it is almost certainly a demon. Even if it is you, its demonically motivated. Specfically, I would be careful of the self pity demon. That demon is a counterfeit for repentance.
True repentance does not come from you. Its a supernatural gift from the holy spirit. I struggled with that for a long time. The point is that there is no need to rely on yourself in this walk:
"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." John 6:63
Your not expected to be able to follow Gods commands. Thats why we need the holy spirit to smother us completely. I want to emphasize that its the holy spirit in us that leads us into obedience.
"for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." Phillipians 2:13
In simplicity, to walk this out we need to get filled with the holy spirit and stay filled all the time. Anytime you feel anything talking to you, stop and get your cup full and it will become WAY easier to resist it. If it hurts to resist, its indication you need to get more holy spirit inside you. Its all about momentum. When your filled with holy spirit, your motivated to keep getting filled with it.
I think alot of these issues come from demons who try to get us to misunderstand the gospel. Alot of times I see people on YouTube who just tell us to repent or to Obey but dont specify that this is NOT to be done in our own power. These are things that flow out of being full of the spirit.
Chris Lasala used to be one of those people and God recently showed him he's NOT supposed to do that and he repented of it on camera and it was BEAUTIFUL. Notice how it was God who brought about that repentance and its something Chris could not have produced in himself.
My point is that we are not capable of true repentance or obedience without the full power of the holy spirit.
Please understand. I know youve probably heard all this before and are probably tired of getting all the same advice, but Satan is making it a point that you dont fully appreciate this because it would wreck his plans for you.
Not that they would have succeeded anyway. Our God is way bigger and I just KNOW that he is using this to refine you in some way. Just believe that his grace is sufficient for you. Think hard about what that means.
It is not meant in a condemning way where Christ is telling you that hes given you what you need already and if you dont walk in it its because you dont want him bad enough. It literally means that Christ is fully capable of coming down to wherever you are, picking you up by the hand and teaching you how to walk HIMSELF. He has enough grace to get YOU through this walk. Its not a general thing. He has enough grace for you SPECIFICALLY.
Believe me he is doing a work in you. Otherwise, he wouldn't keep calling you back. He put his seed in you and called you to himself. He opened your eyes to the truth and hes going to do everything else too. Your just coming along for the ride. Just put your faith in him and trust that HE will keep you above water.
There is NO condemnation in Christ. Period. God is not eagerly waiting to turn you over to the world. In the old testament God sent judgement on his people so they would turn back to him. Its out of love. Believe that everything goes to the good.
I pray this helps. I want you to know that your not alone. We are here for you and we not going to sit by while Satan torments our brother.
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Post by marktrusty on Dec 20, 2017 1:29:47 GMT
Thanks for all that. I do realize that it is the Holy Spirit needed through Christ. As for the responsible part. I only meant that from what i learned every action i have taken is a choice. Willingly or not knowing. We were given free will thats why i said that. Geez it seems like whenever i try to express anything i end up doing this. Any way thanks and as far as i can tell i wouldn't understand anything of God if it wasn't Him that called me. Or maybe i should say i wouldn't understand my disobedience and why i want to be back in a true relationship to Him.
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Post by demetri on Dec 20, 2017 3:19:07 GMT
I've been praying you'd post again Marktrusty! Haven't heard from you in a couple weeks. I'm still prayed for you. Porn and gaming are 2 things I was delivered of so I know that's something I can intercede for you on. And plus it's just His will you get free of it! Amen!
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Post by marktrusty on Dec 20, 2017 3:54:02 GMT
Its not just those though. Do you or anyone else have messager? I really would be able to talk more freely. Regardless though i am holding on to the worlds care instead of Christ. Thanks for your prayers. I think at this point thats all thats keeping me.
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Post by demetri on Dec 21, 2017 1:59:16 GMT
I don't have a computer ATM for messenger but I have WhatsApp on my phone. Or just plain txt if you ever wanna chat or talk via calls if that's okay?
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Post by waris on Dec 21, 2017 2:37:36 GMT
you can send private messages on here
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Post by marktrusty on Dec 21, 2017 2:52:37 GMT
Messager is a phone app. I'll check out that. I have no service. I am using wifi. I know about the private meassge.
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