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Post by Larry Marquez on Oct 24, 2017 4:48:09 GMT
Is 1 Chronicles 28:20 a prophecy about Solomon? "David also said to Solomon his son, "Be strong and courageous, and do the work. Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD God, my God, is with you. He will not fail you or forsake you until all the work for the service of the temple of the LORD is finished." Do you mean A prophecy about the Lord leaving Solomon? I believe so.
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Post by demetri on Oct 24, 2017 21:08:38 GMT
Yeah that's something I still wonder.
1 kings 11:4 niv As Solomon grew old, his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his heart was not fully devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.
I wonder what "his heart was not fully devoted as Davids was" really means. Is it cause he spent a majority of his life serving other gods with his wives and came back to the LORD before dying or did he die apart from the LORD? In Ecclesiastes he seems to admit how vain everything is apart from God.
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Post by Larry Marquez on Oct 25, 2017 4:02:40 GMT
Are people allowed to remarry if they divorced before becoming a christian? Doug has talked about this topic a lot. To me it makes since, once someone is truly born again they get a clean slate and God forgets those sins in the past. Now would the samething apply to two born again christians? I thought we could marry a divorced person if us and them divorced their previous marriage on account of adultery? I wonder how that applies to lusting in your heart? "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. " - Matthew 5:32 KJV " Now I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman, commits adultery." -,Matthew 19:9 NIV (It makes seem if a divorced person marries a other divorced person who was divorced for non adultry reason, then it makes that person commit adultry.) Doesn't Doug teach how the new covenant goes by the spirit of the law and as a result is a higher standard in a way? I thought Jesus came to show the spirit/heart of the law of the old testament. With the new covenant has better promises, but doesn't it have a higher standard, since most of it is based on what Jesus taught? Video that brought up this post: youtu.be/cJh1NOzCFV0Edit: O _ O in the greek where it says 'her' and not woman. Look at other translations of Matthew 5:32 they keep saying woman. " But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. " - NIV version VS "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. " - Matthew 5:32 KJV So wouldn't this statement have a different meaning now?
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Post by demetri on Oct 25, 2017 20:25:02 GMT
You mean because it says woman it seems to puts all the consequences on the women only? (Other than the man that might end up marrying her)
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Post by Larry Marquez on Oct 25, 2017 21:02:06 GMT
You mean because it says woman it seems to puts all the consequences on the women only? (Other than the man that might end up marrying her) No it makes seems Jesus is giving an example of a woman who got divorced for non adultery reasons and if she remarries than she and her new husband commit adultry. I would assume it would apply the same way to her previous husband as well. With setence say 'her' at the end and not 'woman'. Makes it seem Jesus is giving two examples of divorce. If divorce occcurs it's only allowed because someone commited adultry. With the other example it seems if a person divorces for non adultry reasons then they will make the new spouse commit adultry because the previous marriage wasn't divorced in the right circumstances.
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Post by demetri on Oct 25, 2017 23:22:53 GMT
I think I see what you're saying. is the kjv one saying that just getting divorced makes her commit adultery? And if anyone married her he becomes and adulterer also. And the niv says only if she remarried she'd become an adulteress? Still kinda confused
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Post by Larry Marquez on Oct 26, 2017 2:20:53 GMT
I think I see what you're saying. is the kjv one saying that just getting divorced makes her commit adultery? And if anyone married her he becomes and adulterer also. And the niv says only if she remarried she'd become an adulteress? Still kinda confused I think Jesus is,giving to types of divorce. Type 1: Divorced for non adultry reasons = both parties in divorce are committing adultry if they remarry Type 2: Divorced for someone in the marriage committing adultry = The person who didn't commit adultry in the marriage can remarry.
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Post by Larry Marquez on Nov 5, 2017 23:44:39 GMT
Interesting verse, especially the rest part.
" This is what the Sovereign Lord , the Holy One of Israel, says: “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it. " Isaiah 30:15 NIV
Edit: Some translations have repetence and others have returning.
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Post by jjones on Nov 7, 2017 6:48:38 GMT
Even before I'd heard of FOTM, when we started hearing God really well, we asked Him about Bible translations to use. He told us that the fact that they were "translations" already meant that none of them were going to be exact. He was mostly concerned that we were reading our Bibles and had a translation we could understand.
I hope this helps somebody.
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Post by Larry Marquez on Dec 8, 2017 18:29:06 GMT
What are your views on Matthew 6:13 and how it mentions to "not lead us into temptation"? The NIV leaves out"but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.' " "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.' " - Matthew 6:13 NIV Link to different versions of Matthew 6:13 biblehub.com/matthew/6-13.htmGreek word used in that verse for temptation. It can also mean testing or trial. I wonder how this relates to God testing our faith and the refining fire to die to self? biblehub.com/greek/3986.htm
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Post by Larry Marquez on Dec 16, 2017 20:03:11 GMT
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Post by waris on Dec 16, 2017 20:24:41 GMT
Yeah a lot of stuff is left out the NIV. That's one of the reasons why i don't read it.
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Post by Larry Marquez on Dec 23, 2017 6:13:48 GMT
What is Paul referring to? A personal struggle of his?
"Who is weak, and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not inwardly burn?" - 2 Corinthians 11:29
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Post by demetri on Dec 23, 2017 6:27:38 GMT
Looking at other translations it seems like he's referring to being angry regarding others since falling to it? Not burning with his own sin (if that's what you originally meant)
New Living Translation Who is weak without my feeling that weakness? Who is led astray, and I do not burn with anger?
English Standard Version Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to fall, and I am not indignant?
Berean Study Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not burn with grief?
New American Standard Bible Who is weak without my being weak? Who is led into sin without my intense concern?
King James Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
Holman Christian Standard Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation?
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Post by Larry Marquez on Dec 23, 2017 8:27:44 GMT
Looking at other translations it seems like he's referring to being angry regarding others since falling to it? Not burning with his own sin (if that's what you originally meant) New Living Translation Who is weak without my feeling that weakness? Who is led astray, and I do not burn with anger? English Standard Version Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to fall, and I am not indignant? Berean Study Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not burn with grief? New American Standard Bible Who is weak without my being weak? Who is led into sin without my intense concern? King James Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? Holman Christian Standard Bible Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation? I can see that perspective now, after looking into the definition of that word used in that verse. biblehub.com/greek/4448.htm
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